Post by TheMuffin on Apr 20, 2011 12:33:53 GMT -5
Makeshift one lol:
D = dummy hero, H = hammer hero.
And remember tech levels affect this.
If it goes into two rounds, just throw in another set of dummies.
Remember, it helps to have techs at the level of wild you're going after. Also, as your techs increase you can lower the amount of troops you use, through trial and error if you wish. ^^
Helpful Reminder: If the wild near you does not have the proper setup for the least losses, simply seize the wild, then abandon it. Abandoning a wild changes the troop count every time. You can do this until it has the right troop setup for you.
One last note, Hero Gear such as Lion equip helps drastically with losses and attacks and such, especially on higher level wilds. Just ask an league member for help with emblems and if they can spare the time and troops, you'll probably be able to get some equip!
Level 1-2: 2/2/2 principes works just fine. Any hero.
Level 3: Depending on the amount of hasti and your techs, 50/50/50 princi should always work on any wild with no ballis. However, you can use anywhere from 15/15/15 to 50/50/50 princi usually, test out the # your specific wild requires. Usually you want the princi battles to last 4 rounds or less (I also noted that 4 rounds gives better drops than 3 or less, quite consistently, as well as losing one princi or so per hit - a theory that has been confirmed on several servers)
Or D/D/H with two normal dummies and around 185/185 ponies.
Alternate D/D/H: 2/2/2 princi dummies, hammer of about 200 hast/50 ponies/200 hast should do on lvl 3s without ballies and less than 200 hast or so.
Level 4: H/H: 75/75/75 principes, 75/75/75 principes on two heroes. Again, depending on techs and the # of defending troops, you can decrease this amount depending on how many rounds it lasts (4 or less is ideal)
D/D/H: 2 normal dummies and about 205/205 ponies.
Alternate D/D/H: Techs at least lvl 4ish, lvl 4 should have NO BALLIS and less than 450 hast. Dummies as 2/2/2 principes, hammer as 300 hast/200 ponies/300 hast or the normal 200/200 ponies should work. The princi shouldn't die if you are attacking a weak lvl 4.
Level 5: D/D/H - Two normal dummies and about 700 ponies split, 350/350 - It works for me in one round. Careful with these when just starting out, as ones with ballis can bring it to 2 rounds.
When techs are up to about lvl 4 or 5ish, you can easily 1 round a lvl 5 with about 300/300 ponies.
Level 6: D/H/D - One normal dummy, then 700/700/700 ponies, and another normal dummy. ONLY WORKS on wilds with defending ponies, and you lose more of your own ponies if it has ballistas. (Note: when techs level up around 8 or 9 you'll only lose 1/1/1 or so)
Level 7: D/H/D - 15/15/15 hast should work for your dummies, and about 1350/1350/1350 ponies for your hammer. Remember to look for wilds with ponies. A side note, if you can take the pony losses, wilds with a few ballis won't do too terribly much damage, per se if you're lux farming or res farming (as stronger wilds give more res and better drops!)... Just add bigger dummies. 25/25/25 or so should work in most cases, but when techs upgrade you should be able to get away with 10/10/10.
Level 8: D/H/D - 100/100/100 hast dummies* (see note below), and about 3500/3500/3500 Ponies is what I use. You'll take more losses on wilds with principes and onas. Look for wilds with ponies.
*Note: Almost all the time, 100/100/100 hast dummies will work. However you can experiment with lower #'s of hasti. One lvl 8 I got down to 35/35/35 hasti, 9 pony loss max (simple way to do this is to send 100/100/100, then lower each slot by 5 each time until your losses increase dramatically. Use the amount of hasti just before the big loss attack, and you should be fine).
Also: On stronger pony wilds (700-900 ponies), you NEED to send more ponies per slot. 5k/5k/5k or so.
Level 9/10: Scout for ponies, is what I do. Then add all my ponies onto one hero, split about 12k/12k/xxxk+ whatever your hero can hold. Then D/D/H/D/D depending on how many rounds the battle lasts, you'll add that many dummies. I make my dummies about 150/150/150 hasti, 100/100/100 sagi.
Attention Loyal Sword Owners... You can do these with one hero and no dummies. Throw about a minimum of 80-100k sagi and 50-60k hasti (depending on your gear level and type) on your hero, one large stack. Do not spread out! You'll lose more. Simply send your one hero against ANY level 9 or 10, and you will win in 2 rounds. For those just starting out with the sword, you may want to set up like 1/1/xxx hasti, 1/1/xxx sagi, and use 2 1/1/1 hasti 1/1/1 sagi dummies until you get accustomed to the losses you'd take from just your hammer. They may seem large but with the amount of res you can maraud, you can make them back through your hast/sagi cities very easily.
~~Will add to this later~~
Level 3:
Level 4:
Level 5:
Level 6:
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D = dummy hero, H = hammer hero.
And remember tech levels affect this.
If it goes into two rounds, just throw in another set of dummies.
Remember, it helps to have techs at the level of wild you're going after. Also, as your techs increase you can lower the amount of troops you use, through trial and error if you wish. ^^
Helpful Reminder: If the wild near you does not have the proper setup for the least losses, simply seize the wild, then abandon it. Abandoning a wild changes the troop count every time. You can do this until it has the right troop setup for you.
One last note, Hero Gear such as Lion equip helps drastically with losses and attacks and such, especially on higher level wilds. Just ask an league member for help with emblems and if they can spare the time and troops, you'll probably be able to get some equip!
Level 1-2: 2/2/2 principes works just fine. Any hero.
Level 3: Depending on the amount of hasti and your techs, 50/50/50 princi should always work on any wild with no ballis. However, you can use anywhere from 15/15/15 to 50/50/50 princi usually, test out the # your specific wild requires. Usually you want the princi battles to last 4 rounds or less (I also noted that 4 rounds gives better drops than 3 or less, quite consistently, as well as losing one princi or so per hit - a theory that has been confirmed on several servers)
Or D/D/H with two normal dummies and around 185/185 ponies.
Alternate D/D/H: 2/2/2 princi dummies, hammer of about 200 hast/50 ponies/200 hast should do on lvl 3s without ballies and less than 200 hast or so.
Level 4: H/H: 75/75/75 principes, 75/75/75 principes on two heroes. Again, depending on techs and the # of defending troops, you can decrease this amount depending on how many rounds it lasts (4 or less is ideal)
D/D/H: 2 normal dummies and about 205/205 ponies.
Alternate D/D/H: Techs at least lvl 4ish, lvl 4 should have NO BALLIS and less than 450 hast. Dummies as 2/2/2 principes, hammer as 300 hast/200 ponies/300 hast or the normal 200/200 ponies should work. The princi shouldn't die if you are attacking a weak lvl 4.
Level 5: D/D/H - Two normal dummies and about 700 ponies split, 350/350 - It works for me in one round. Careful with these when just starting out, as ones with ballis can bring it to 2 rounds.
When techs are up to about lvl 4 or 5ish, you can easily 1 round a lvl 5 with about 300/300 ponies.
Level 6: D/H/D - One normal dummy, then 700/700/700 ponies, and another normal dummy. ONLY WORKS on wilds with defending ponies, and you lose more of your own ponies if it has ballistas. (Note: when techs level up around 8 or 9 you'll only lose 1/1/1 or so)
Level 7: D/H/D - 15/15/15 hast should work for your dummies, and about 1350/1350/1350 ponies for your hammer. Remember to look for wilds with ponies. A side note, if you can take the pony losses, wilds with a few ballis won't do too terribly much damage, per se if you're lux farming or res farming (as stronger wilds give more res and better drops!)... Just add bigger dummies. 25/25/25 or so should work in most cases, but when techs upgrade you should be able to get away with 10/10/10.
Level 8: D/H/D - 100/100/100 hast dummies* (see note below), and about 3500/3500/3500 Ponies is what I use. You'll take more losses on wilds with principes and onas. Look for wilds with ponies.
*Note: Almost all the time, 100/100/100 hast dummies will work. However you can experiment with lower #'s of hasti. One lvl 8 I got down to 35/35/35 hasti, 9 pony loss max (simple way to do this is to send 100/100/100, then lower each slot by 5 each time until your losses increase dramatically. Use the amount of hasti just before the big loss attack, and you should be fine).
Also: On stronger pony wilds (700-900 ponies), you NEED to send more ponies per slot. 5k/5k/5k or so.
Level 9/10: Scout for ponies, is what I do. Then add all my ponies onto one hero, split about 12k/12k/xxxk+ whatever your hero can hold. Then D/D/H/D/D depending on how many rounds the battle lasts, you'll add that many dummies. I make my dummies about 150/150/150 hasti, 100/100/100 sagi.
Attention Loyal Sword Owners... You can do these with one hero and no dummies. Throw about a minimum of 80-100k sagi and 50-60k hasti (depending on your gear level and type) on your hero, one large stack. Do not spread out! You'll lose more. Simply send your one hero against ANY level 9 or 10, and you will win in 2 rounds. For those just starting out with the sword, you may want to set up like 1/1/xxx hasti, 1/1/xxx sagi, and use 2 1/1/1 hasti 1/1/1 sagi dummies until you get accustomed to the losses you'd take from just your hammer. They may seem large but with the amount of res you can maraud, you can make them back through your hast/sagi cities very easily.
~~Will add to this later~~
Screenies
Level 3:
Level 4:
Level 5:
Level 6:
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. Although there can be instance where the wild techs are much lower (preferably below level 7) so a regular dummy would indeed work just fine. ALWAYS scout the wild first before you plan to seize/maraud. ;D. Once you do get gear(Lion armour or even Fearless) you can send one hero at a level 9 and 10 and not worry about major losses.
Lets hope this works